Honoring The 9/11 Victims and Realizing The Government Lies

I've fallen down the rabbit hole again.  With the fifth anniversary of 9/11 soon upon us, I've been doing a lot of thinking and reading.

Bear with me, dear and gentle readers, while I try to tie all this together.  It's not going to be wrapped up and as neatly presented as if it had come out of Candy Spelling's infamous gift-wrapping room in her 57,000 square foot real estate monstrosity. 

Let's start with the Far Right Wing.  I grew up in and live in an area that was well-known because the former Grand Poo Bah of the KKK maintained a farm (among other things) north of the town of Howell.  We weren't known for diversity around here. (Note:  I've written in detail about this, just look under The Far Right Wing category and stop groaning, it's not like I gave you homework and we're having a pop quiz on Tuesday. You don't have to read it.)

Because of the reputation my community had and because my parents raised me with no tolerance for this sort of behavior, I have always been aware of the fact that there are indeed many very disgruntled people running around, some of them zealots.

Let's start with April 19.  April 19 is just not the day it is likely that if you owed income taxes that your check will hit, it is also Hitler's birthday.  This is an occasion that some groups find significant and celebrate.  These are some of the same people who think the Holocaust never happened.

A few other notable things happened on April 19. 

In 1992, the first attempted raid of Randy Weaver's family cabin was carried out.

In 1993, The Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas, were raided.

In 1995, Richard Snell, considered the Grand Old Man of the Radical Right, who had the original idea to bomb the Murrah building, is executed.  Among his many crimes: he killed a pawnshop owner he was robbing because he thought the man was Jewish.   Buh Bye, DICK Snell, you are missed, I am sure.

Also in 1995, The Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was bombed in the single most deadly act of homegrown terrorism that America had ever experienced.

I've just read three very intriguing books that detail the Oklahoma City Bombing, Ruby Ridge, The Aryan Republican Army and they all prove a sort of symmetry in the inept skills of our government.  All the knowledge and information was there, no one did anything about it.  Sort of reminds me 9/11.  Oh, and they lied and tried to cover it up.

The books:

Apocalypse In Oklahoma: Waco And Ruby Ridge Revenged by Mark S. Hamm

In Bad Company: America's Terrorist Underground by Mark S. Hamm

Ruby Ridge: The Truth & Tragedy Of The Randy Weaver Family by Jess Walter

Mr. Hamm is a Professor Of Criminology at Indiana State University and has followed the American Terrorist Far Right Wing movement for years.  Mr. Walter wrote for the Spokane Spokesman-Review, which won a Pulitzer Prize for it's coverage of Ruby Ridge.  All three books are very readable and will not only keep you up far later than you need to be because you can't put them down, they will make you think.  They gave me bad dreams, to be quite honest.

I've harbored a lot of  suspicions about Timothy McVeigh for a long time.  Turns out I may very well be right.  My opinion: There is no way he acted alone.  He wasn't smart enough.  He was tweaking out on meth for a long period of time right before Oklahoma City; meth users are not known for their great composure and planning skills;  he didn't have the finances and Mr. Hamm lays out some pretty compelling argument that it just wasn't possible logistically.  There are at least three people directly responsible and probably ten to twelve more who acted in the shadows.

The government, our government, has all the information available to pursue these other co-conspirators.  Other than McVeigh, only Terry Nichols, our lunatic from the Thumb here in Michigan, was charged with anything.

First of all, before I can give any editorial comment, I have to first tell you, dear and gentle readers, some of what my mom would have called "hard truths".  These men were all racists.  They all, to some degree, embraced separation of the races.  They felt the Jews ruled the banks and the government and pulled all the strings.  They favored tee shirts that had ZOG on them:  Zionist Occupied Government. 

This all brings me to 9/11.  Visit 911 Truth.  A dear friend of mine fell down the rabbit hole and I read it and got lured in as well.  I can't say I agree with everything but there is a lot I question now.

My big stepping stone is that I have seen buildings demolished, namely the Hudson's Building in Detroit.  It fell neatly, floor by floor.  Just like the Twin Towers.  The Hudson Building was a controlled demolition.

I'm all over the board here, I know that.  I will try to wrap it up to give you food for thought.

Randy Weaver was set up.  He had these stupid racist beliefs but his primary thing was Old Testament religion and his particular interpretation.  He had attended a few events at the Aryan World Nations in Idaho but read Bible verses, drank beer and proclaimed the skinhead contingent "punks".  He was also hurting for money.  The feds had an informant approach Randy to cut down some shotguns and offered him $300.  He needed money so he did it. To avoid the charges, he was asked to be an informant on the Aryan Nations. Only problem was that Randy wasn't a member.  He had attended a few events there but he was hardly anyone who had any knowledge about anything pertaining to them.  His wife and son were killed over a $300 transaction after the government screwed up the court date relating to this charge.  No one ever just went to his cabin and knocked on his door and asked him why he didn't show up.  It evolved into a raid with ATF and Humvees and that other POS Bo Gritz ("Rhymes with WHITES" he was apt to declare).   I don't condone Randy's beliefs in any way, but he wanted to live on a mountain and be alone and he and his family tried to achieve that.  The level of paranoia grew considerably as the level of pursuit did.

An ATF agent shot Randy's son in the back as he was running was after seeing his dog shot. The SOP Rules of Engagement were altered to the point that if anyone armed came out, it was okay to shoot.  It was common knowledge that all of the Weavers, kids included, carried guns.

Tim McVeigh:  No way he acted alone.  This is a guy who worked at Burger King, was the "Perfect Soldier" yet got out for no apparent reason and was a very volatile armed guard for a security company before he started doing meth in a big way.  This guy couldn't organize a gang bang at the frat even if there was free beer and the hookers were $2.

I've been all over the place here. 

The bottom line:  Terrorism can start with our own government and want they want you to believe versus what really happened.

Don't think the media is telling you the absolute truth.  They are telling you what they've been told in most cases.  It may not agree with what they've seen.

Take the time to read the books above. 

Next jolly post:  I Used To Be A Die Hard Republican!

Comments

[vero]

I have been strongly resisting the rabbit hole. I don't know how much longer I can hold out. Help me.

[T]

wow. A co-worker of mine was just talking to me about this very issue yesterday. "if you watch video of the collapse of the World Trade Center, you'll see flashes is several key areas of the towers--just like a carefully crafted building demolition". Don't buy into the hype, Lisa. Our government may be corrupt. Our President may be a lying son-of-a-bitch who was going to go after Saddam Hussein no-matter-what. But--the U-S government had absolutely nothing to do with those towers tumbling to the ground, killing thousands of innocent U-S citizens. Conspiracy theories are a good thing. They spark honest discussion and debate. But, please....

This argument borders on paranoia. It was terrorism. Pure and simple.

[Donna]

I lost a pregnancy on the same day the Murrah builing was bombed. I didn't realize Hitler's birthday was that day. One of my best friends and her son were both born that day. Hum...

[Lisa]

T, I think you missed the essense of what I was trying to say. I think the government knew all about 9/11. They just chose not do act upon the information, just like they chose not to act on information about Oklahoma City, nor to prosecute anyone other than McVeigh or Terry Nichols.

I don't know what to think about the way the WTC came down. It just doesn't look right.

[Republican Michigander]

Hi Lisa. Very interesting to see this post today. I went three rounds on the Argus website's comment section with one individual who has "Kluck lite" views. The timing was ironic.

As for the other stuff.
I used to be a lot more of a conspiracy theorist in my younger days, but I still don't think McVeigh acted alone. No followups on Andreas Strassmeir or Michael Brescia.

I've seen conspriacys on both the right and left about several of these cases. Some I question more than others.

I think a lot of the problems in governments are with mid to upper - level bureaucrats who are glory hounds. It never changes no matter who is president, most of the mid-levels are still around. Some DA or BATF Lt sees a change to make it big and go out in a blaze of glory and get himself a promotion.

Unfortunately, I think it's been at least 15 years since we had a good US Att General would have the guts to shake the old-boys networks down the hierarchy, but that's another story.

Dan

[Lisa]

Dan, Andreas Strassmeir and Michael Brescia are explored in the books I read.

And wasn't Brescia a piece of work? A transexual white supremacist? You can't make this shit up.

I don't even read the drivel in the chat at the LCP anymore. Bunch of idiots. You are smarter than that, too!