I think all the brouhaha over gay marriage is really idiotic. Do these religious zealots who call themselves Christians really think people wake up one morning and think, "Okay, I'm gay! And I'm out to destroy every family I know and go molest children!" Pulease. Your sexual orientation is something that is hardwired, it's not something anyone can "choose" or even better, "cure".
My half sister is gay. One of my husband's childhood friend's is gay. Do we care? Nope. Both Sandi and Mike have long term partners that we love as family as well. Their relationships deserve the same respect, rights and benefits as any other.
My sister and her partner Janie had a commitment ceremony. I was a bridesmaid. It was beautiful and meaningful and she is just as married to Janie as I am to Martin. Except legally. Is that right? Is it some bureaucrat's decision?
I love the Moral Majority Idiots and their take on the whole thing. They liken it to pedophilia and say that it is going to ruin families. Bullshit. I happen to know more than one gay couple who are parents both naturally and through adoption and their kids are just the same as any other kids and they love them and raise them the same as any other parents. Kids don't see sexual orientation, they see a loving healthy relationship. And the pedophilia angle, well, geeze, I guess you don't differentiate between a psycho sexual disease and sexual orientation. Pedophiles don't want to have sex with adults PERIOD.
A lot of the opposition comes from a generational standpoint. Older people are just not as accepting of this since it wasn't out in the open. My mom was great friends with a lesbian couple and I never even thought a thing of it until I was about 20 and my dad said something and suddenly the light bulb went on. But my parents were pretty liberal in their thoughts. My in-laws are as well.
Who is getting hurt here? People want to commit to their partner and have just the same rights as any other married couple. That's not hurting anyone. And let's not even go into the horror stories about families that reject the gay member until they die, then suddenly pop up like a bad jack-in-the-box wanting half the estate, when they wouldn't talk to the person for umpteen years.
These so-called Christians need to learn to accept and tolerate just like Jesus did. Jesus taught love for your fellow humans. Did they all miss that class in Bible School or what?
Many people are affected by their environment. For example, children who are abused are more likely to experience sexual confusion and become homosexual adults. These kids need therapy, NOT a green light into a homosexual lifestyle.
Although I agree that some ARE hardwired, many (and perhaps a majority) of gay people become gay because of abuse and sexual confusion.
Posted by: Tucker | July 13, 2004 at 11:08 PM
A nice theory from a lay-person but scientifically unfounded. The truth about about people that are Gay is simply that in the womb there was a lack or an overabundance of a specific hormone. This hormone varies from male to female but it boils down to a physical condition that occurs shortly after conception. In short, you are either Gay or not Gay very soon after you are conceived, it has been recently medically proven as a side issue of the Human Genome mapping project. I don't have sites to reference right now but if someone really wants the "tech" I'll do the research and I'll be happy to bring it to the discussion.
The long and short of the story is that all the Gay people I know are nice, loving, caring individuals. They are well educated, well adjusted, and want nothing in life except to have the same rights as other couples. They want to get married, buy houses, live in peace, and pay taxes, like the rest of us.
Wow folks, there is a group of people we had better be on the lookout for!!! Those types are far more dangerous than the "larger minded" groups that go largely unsung and unnoticed in this country, groups like the "fucking" Nazi's, the KKK and the far right wing religious zealots that would govern all our lives and our rights if they had their way... Sheesh, lookout for those Gay people, they'll take your rights and your family in a heartbeat!
Pleeeease people, grow up!
"The only problem with closed minds is that they don't come with closed mouths..."
...and yes, I'm as straight as can be, but I hate to see good people persecuted for bad reasons. I thought this was a "free" country. How free are any of us if the Government can tell us who we can and can't marry? Seriously, no matter where you fall on the "gay issue" do you really want that much legislation in your lives? Was this country so proudly founded on government control over our daily lives? If it was then 90% of the people that live in this country are fooling themselves about the "freedoms" they hold so dear. To my mind, when Government starts legislating morality in whatever form they have gone too far. Your personal freedom is at risk at that point, no matter how you feel about any social subject. It's a slippery slope folks! What will you give up next?
Next thing you know you'll have a government arm that has total power over you. They will be able to servale you whenever they feel like it (with or without probable cause) through a new loophole in the Constitution. They'll be able to take you into custody without rime or reason at a whim and hold you for as long as they please without any rights for you the guilty or innocent prisoner, it doesn't matter. Hell, they may even be allowed to bar your relatives from meeting you at the airport while holding you for extraneous searches (taking your shoes off, etc) that prove nothing when 111 people have access to that airplane from the ramp without so much as a basic security check...
Whoops... That already happened didn't it?
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Ben Franklin
Your forefathers folks, not mine.... <--- English
Are the terrorists a threat that make you cower in your basements and give up your rights for a false sense of security? Apparently that's the truth.
Are the Gay people coming out of that giant closet in hordes and threatening your family and your way of life? My Lord, if a bunch of right wing religious freaks say so, it must be true!
Is America a land of scardie cats that don't want to deal with modern life? Or are you all a land of people that have the old "can do" spirit, the so called "American Spirit"? Terrorists...please... Gay marriage, big deal, you are the world leaders after all, shouldn't you be the world leaders with the most open minds? Or should you cower in our basements and give up you rights when new ideas and new threats present themselves?
Personally I know how I and my family are meeting these new ideas and the new threats to our safety. We are meeting them head on with open minds and courage.
Someone once told me that this was the American way. Well, as a British immigrant, I have to tell you...After 9/11 and wanton giving up of basic rights for a false sense of security, this whole Gay marriage thing, the state of healthcare on this country, the level of poverty, and lack of decent racial relations... I'm not impressed yet.
Anyone care to appease me?
Posted by: Fvracer_x | July 16, 2004 at 04:18 AM
I totally agree with you. I think that homosexuality is something that you are born with, and that God gave you. No one should try to discriminate someone who is gay or lesbian or condem them in any way. I'm one of the biggest gay and lesbian supporters you will ever find, and I was before I even became friends with one of my best friends that I became very close to very fast in March. I was only friends with him for two to two and a half weeks when he asked me if I wanted to be a bridesmaid in his gay wedding. It took me less than half a second to say yes, and give him a big hug. I couldn't be more proud! In fact, I love him even more for being gay. It causes us to be able to be so much alike and so close. I also, think that anyone discriminating against a gay or lesbian has no more right to do so than if they were discriminating against a black person and, they happen to be white.
Kristina Grahn A.K.A. chefagape
Posted by: Kristina | April 17, 2006 at 07:34 PM